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Valentine Blues: I?m Tired of Being Alone. Do I ?Settle? for a Blue Collar Guy??

Posted by Admin at 02:02 AM on February 05, 2010

       

Dr. Pamela Thompson

www.drpamthompson.com

 

 

Wow! What a provocative question! Some of you have probably already had a strong reaction already. I can just hear the sisters saying, “I tried that and it didn’t work out; I need someone who is my equal…I can do bad by myself.” OR they may be saying, “I don’t care if he collects trash as long as he’s good to me.” I can hear the brothers saying, “It’s plenty of good men out here, but sisters are turning their noses up at them, thinking they’re too good…they’re just too demanding!” Personally, I think there are 3 things that trip up the relationship between two people unequally yoked in educational and professional status, particularly when the woman is more advanced.

 

The first is not about educational/professional differences at all, but rather about incompatible interests. It is usually par for the course that people with college degrees and beyond spend more time reading, participating in cultural activities, watching documentaries, traveling to far-reaching places, and eating diverse foods, and playing golf and tennis. Oftentimes these interests are incompatible with someone who is less educated or perhaps less exposed to such. Does this mean one lifestyle is BETTER than the other. Absolutely not! It’s simply different, and those incompatible interests may be the deal breaker rather than the socio-economic levels per se. If the interests are in sync along with the ability to articulate ideas and dreams, and the time spent together with friends, family, and each other is comfortable and enjoyable, the educational differences probably matter very little.

 

Secondly, a less educated/exposed guy with a woman he perceives is beyond him eventually seems to start feeling inadequate, even if the woman NEVER communicates such. Since men are hard-wired by God to be providers and to walk in headship, when they aren’t able to do that or feel that they can’t for various reasons (namely money or lack of knowledge/experience in certain areas), they may take it out on their women in passive-aggressive ways (e.g., not celebrating or minimizing her accomplishments, falling awfully silent when others are praising her, demonstrating irrational anger that is unprovoked, not showing up to support her moments of glory). Does this mean he shouldn’t be with her? Maybe. It definitely means he’s behaving with immaturity and not loving her as Christ loves her. It also means he needs to grow and challenge himself (not in competition with her but in competition with himself). If not, the game of “hateration” will get really old for her, and he will become really uninteresting to her. It’s very sexy to see a man operating with VISION for his growth—spiritual, occupational, and financial. Unfortunately, a woman often tries to jump in and help develop that vision, and that just makes it worse for him, It becomes evidence of a lack of confidence in him (which may be justified), and his resentment may grow.

 

Thirdly, women get caught up in the idea of changing a man (i.e.,falling in love with his potential). Ooh, famous last words. Women have to realize that the man you fell for, the one you chose from all the rest, who wasn’t as articulate or polished as you were, is not likely to become someone he wasn’t designed to become or truth be told, doesn’t DESIRE to be. She may have actually fallen for him because he was comfortable in his own skin AS HE WAS. So if a woman wants a man who sits in the board room and has an impressive title (nothing wrong with that by the way if he’s loving, faithful, and kind), make sure that’s who he was when the relationship began. If he wasn’t already WALKING in that lifestyle from the outset or DEMONSTRABLY pursuing it, then what one sees TODAY may be all one gets. Women have to decide if that’s a good thing or not, but by all means they need to understand the need to proceed with caution when falling in love with potential. It usually puts debilitating pressure on the man and woman in the relationship because she attaches herself to his future (which only GOD can predict), while he’s attached to how he’s living and breathing in the present. AND by the way, men usually get very content or complacent, shall we say, AFTER marriage when the chase or need to impress is over.

 

Just as an aside, for those of you who may be thinking, “Well look at Barak Obama…he was making less than Michelle, and he was only ‘a potential’ when she met him”—just chew on this: He had a LAW DEGREE from HARVARD where he was already known as a trailblazer. That was not potential; that was FACT!

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

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13 Comments

Reply Rich Solomon
04:53 AM on February 05, 2010
Plenty of people hook up or even find love with a person who don't have the same
education,financial, age etc. If God is in it, it's gonna work period. If you limit yourself, you miss a chance to let someone really bless you.
Reply SGT Davis
07:07 AM on February 05, 2010
Didn't I just address this?! on the subject of "Big Black Booty addiction"?!

Many of our Black men who are "Blue Collar" workers have ventured to women of other races for this very reason, In my experiences during my time as a single man the following was a true statement ?It?s plenty of good men out here, but sisters are turning their noses up at them, thinking they?re too good?they?re just too demanding!? Now Black women would call that being a strong black woman, I respectfully disagree. Then the same women become angry and bitter when we're with a woman from another race I.E. white, asian, hispanic, or pacific islander. I've heard from our black women that the only reason we go after these women is because they're "easy" again I respectfully disagree. What attracted mt to my current wife was the fact that she accepted me for who I am and not for what I had, be it financially or educationally.

Many of our Black men have come to this same conclusion. I've been under fire by black women who use the "you came from a black woman" attack, I aknowledge this faact however nowhere NO WHERE is it written that by virtue of the fact that my mother was black that I'm supposed to date, court or marry within my own race....... My decision to marry outside of my race was influenced by my experiences living abroad during the first 10 years of my career in the Army, I simply had one rule: the first woman to catch me can have me, the way my wife caught me was the fact that accepted me for who I am.
Reply cgmdirector1@gmail.com
08:08 AM on February 05, 2010
SGT. Davis we have to understand the plight of the Black woman. Although I think in many ways you are right, How many black men that are ready willing and able, won't do right? Did the black man create this problem is some way? Food for thought.
Reply Sharon
08:37 AM on February 05, 2010
I think as Christians, a man?s profession shouldn?t matter to us but his heart. We have for so many years been blinded by the fact that men with white collar jobs could take better care of us..it?s not necessarily true. It comes down to this ..the heart?a man could be a green collar jobber if there is any such thing and still be the best man on earth because of the way he treats and respect his wife. Yes I would sure enough settle for any man as long as his heart is good..as long as he puts God first, and me second?loving and caring for me as Christ loves His bride..the church..the heart counts..we are no longer in the world so let?s get back in touch with what our blue print in live..the bible tells us..
I think it gets to the point of asking one?s self?ok I turn my nose on this guy but he treats me like royalty, I am his world as opposed to a 6 figure income high professional ?playa?-excuse my French who chases anything in a dress or shirt?I?ld say let?s get real?quite acting out movie scenes or TV make believe..truth be told, in the dark, in the corner and on ur own who would you prefer?????? Thanks for such a great article and I trust we sisters will take this to heart when seeking our potential mate??go for the heart my sisters and not the money..money can?t buy happiness but a good heart will sure
Reply lovelyshegirl
04:18 PM on February 05, 2010
cgmdirector1, I totally agree with you. How many black men that are ready willing and able, won't do right? I have learned over the years that a good man doesn?t always come in the form of an educated or successful man. I have met a lot of good men who are blue collar workers. From my experience, educated Black men tend to understand how to be with a Black woman. The way that an educated Black man look at the world tends to be different than a Black man who has none or limited education. I must admit that I don?t give blue collar workers or uneducated Black men a chance to get to know me because of what is presented by society about Black men. I am not open to dating a blue collar worker or an uneducated Black man. I am sure that there are blue collar workers who are educated but a lot of the blue collar men or still limited when it comes to issues that are important to a healthy relationship and a healthy family life. I just don?t have the time to invest in a relationship that is totally unequal. For those women who do have the time then that is fine. If she is willing to take the time then that is fine. I just don?t believe that we would have anything in common not to mention I know how I want to be treated and I don?t believe I could ever find it from a blue collar worker or an uneducated man. For me settling is not an option, I rather be alone then to date a blue collar worker or uneducated man.
Reply SGT Davis
03:47 AM on February 06, 2010
[cgmdirector1@gmail.com].....cgmdirector1@gmail.com].......I will not be led into a finger pointing debate on this subject, however I can only speak from my own experiences. I have in the past been overlooked by many of our black women, at first it did leave me angry, frustrated and bitter, black women can be cold and just plain cruel with words and again I found myself judged upon what I had or didn't have and in some cases my profession.

as for "How many black men that are ready willing and able, won't do right?" there are quite a few of us but many of our black women fail to recognize them, but the women of other races recognize them quickly. "Did the black man create this problem is some way?" To answer this question I'll simply say that as you point the finger at my fellow black men you should also be pointing the finger at our black women as well.

The plight of the black woman or should I say the existing gap between black men and black women stems from two places (again from my own point of view)
1)The pain of the "thugs" "pimps" "playas" and "hustlers" the black men who fall into any of or a combination of these catagories have caused our women to walk with a deflector shield, a grand canyon, and a sky high wall to guard against meeting these kinds of men.

2)Dealing with the results of this kind of defense which has made many of you unapprochable over the years.

The plight you speak of has and constantly sent mixed messages to many of us. and the end result is the increase of interracial dating in America. This great nation that I've sworn to protect has also in the past painted black women in a bad light which further adds to this problem.

As a guardian of America's freedom I've learned to look beyond race, creed, color, national origin or faith. The Armed Forces in my opinion has done an outstanding job of just accepting "people" and looking beyond color, Many of our black men have done so as well as a few of our black women to include one of my sisters. With this being black history month I leave you with this food for thought "Judge me not by the color of my skin but the content of my character"

One man's dream........

SGT Davis
U.S. ARMY IRAQ
Reply SGT Davis
04:19 AM on February 06, 2010
[lovelyshegirl]........"I know how I want to be treated and I don?t believe I could ever find it from a blue collar worker or an uneducated man. For me settling is not an option, I rather be alone then to date a blue collar worker or uneducated man." Ma'am with this mentality in mind you may find yourself by yourself.

The Blue collar and the "uneducated" men that you reject many of them are within the ranks our Armed Forces and yet through the experiences that they gain and continue to gain while serving this great nation of ours gives them a type of wisdom an insight that many "educated"people only read about, and while we're on the topic of education they have the opportunity to become educated while on active duty in fact it is highly encouraged by our superiors to do so.

I don't know what city or state that you reside in but perhaps you should look into Dating some of our black men in Uniform.

I wish you well in your endavors.

SGT Davis
U.S. ARMY IRAQ
Reply SGT Davis
06:53 AM on February 06, 2010
(OOPS I sent this to myself by accident)
lovelyshegirl]........"I know how I want to be treated and I don?t believe I could ever find it from a blue collar worker or an uneducated man. For me settling is not an option, I rather be alone then to date a blue collar worker or uneducated man." Ma'am with this mentality in mind you may find yourself by yourself.

The Blue collar and the "uneducated" men that you reject many of them are within the ranks our Armed Forces and yet through the experiences that they gain and continue to gain while serving this great nation of ours gives them a type of wisdom an insight that many "educated"people only read about, and while we're on the topic of education they have the opportunity to become educated while on active duty in fact it is highly encouraged by our superiors to do so.

I don't know what city or state that you reside in but perhaps you should look into Dating some of our black men in Uniform.

I wish you well in your endavors.

SGT Davis
U.S. ARMY IRAQ
Reply Freedom
04:45 PM on February 07, 2010
Doesn't the Bible state that we should stay humble and esteem one another above ourselves? If we followed the word of God, wouldn't this put the question of settling to rest? Should this "settling" issue be on a Christian forum since we are to look on a man's heart, not his status like the rest of this world rates people?
I spent years being "high minded" and well, God can and will humble his children (I was humbled through humiliation until I got the point). I warn everyone against the high minded road for anyone who says they love God.
Reply SGT Davis
04:03 AM on February 08, 2010
[Freedom]..........I agree with you, the point that I was trying to make is that too many Black women do just what you described as "high minded". Now as an armed servicemember I have a sense of both pride where it is needed and I continue to strive for humility.

I just grew tired of the mixed messages sent many of black women that I viewed at that time as attractive back in my single days, and I found myself judged based upon what I had, what I was driving and what I wore.

And the minute that I opened up to women of other races I found myself under fire for doing so, and the "you came from a black woman Nigga".
I am in an interracial marriage and we have a 2 year old little girl, she encompasses the beauty of both races and not just one!

That is a blessing from above!!!!
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04:06 PM on February 08, 2010
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Reply Pam Thompson
06:56 AM on February 09, 2010
Hi Freedom,

Thank you for your comments. As a psychologist whose speciality is the integration of my clinical knowledge and skills with a Biblical worldview, I cater signficantly to the Christian community and this question comes up for believers and non-believers BECAUSE the issue of compatibility is a REAL issue for those trying to build long-lasting relationships. It sounds soo-o-o good to say if one knows God or has Jesus and has a heart pleasing to God everything else will work out. If that was all it took, any man or woman walking down the street who is a sincere believer would make a suitable mate for any other believer regardless of other factors. We know this is not the case. The reality is that 5, 10, 15 years down the road of marriage, genuine and deal-breaking differences in interests surface and strain on the marriage becomes debilitating. People grow in Christ at different paces and have different interpretations of what that means, so a shared belief in a savior who died to save our sins is not enough to preserve some marriages with the best of intentions. Likewise, love is not enough to sustain a satisfying marriage. It takes HONEST expression of needs/wants/desires, commitment to nurturing those desires in each other even when you don't feel like it, forgiveness when there is failure and wrong-doing, a constant walk of repentence to facilitate repair, and a compatibility of values regarding money, lifestyle choices, social and recreational pursuits, and child-rearing--just to name a few. This article was not about the high-minded looking down on or judging the less educated or exposed by ANY stretch of the imagination, but it was taking an honest look at real issues that affect couples everyday in the choices they make and the way they envision their lives unfolding.

Pam Thompson
Reply stella chichi
02:35 PM on February 19, 2010
plenty of people hook up or even find love with a person who don't have d same education,financial and ages.it is better to be who u are and not what people we like u to being.i see ur sms and all is fine,in case u peopls need my assitance pls call dis number +2348133518988 4rm nigeria my name is stella.thnks and god bless

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